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Good intentions but the right approach? The case of ACEs

(This blog was originally posted here: 

http://publichealthy.co.uk/goo...ch-the-case-of-aces/ and on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/andykturne.../1090298657000378369, @andykturner)

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Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) are traumatic events that children can be exposed to while growing up.  These include the direct impact of suffering abuse or neglect, or the indirect effects of living in a household affected by domestic violence, substance misuse or mental illness.  The original ACEs study found that those with a higher number of ACEs were more likely to have physical and mental health difficulties and to engage in health-related risk-taking behaviours than those with less traumatic childhoods.  In the 20 years since the study was published the ‘ACEs movement’ has steadily expanded, particularly in the United States. 

It took much longer for the first UK ACEs study to be published and it is only really in the last few years that awareness of ACEs has grown on these shores.  England is currently lagging behind Wales and Scotland in recognising ACEs in national policy, though many local areas are developing their own ACEs strategies.

I only heard about ACEs two or three few years ago. I was aware of each of the individual experiences that the authors termed ACEs, but not of their being grouped together and counted. There was something about the idea that nagged away at me right from the start, but I couldn’t articulate it.  Then I came across a concrete example of good intentions causing harm in a charity I was working alongside.  The organisation helps vulnerable people with a range of problems, from domestic violence to involvement with the criminal justice system.  Staff had received training on ‘ACE-awareness’ and how to incorporate routine enquiry about ACEs into their work with service users, apparently to offer more tailored support.  Many of the staff had faced the same issues as those they were now trying to help, and several reported finding the training distressing. They were told of the potential damage ACEs can cause, which caused them to worry about the impact it had had on themselves. Several reported feeling guilty about having ‘passed on’ their own ACEs to their children.  They were taught all about the negative impact of ACEs, but offered no reassurance that you can have a high number of ACEs and still be totally fine.  I posted this issue in an online ACES forum and found that it was not an uncommon issue.  I’ve since worked on various ACEs projects and think my thoughts are finally just about lined up enough to write down. 

There are of course lots of examples of fine work going on around ACEs, but there are also aspects of the ACE movement that make me feel a little uncomfortable.  I worry that what is clearly a well-intentioned desire to just do something might not do good and could cause harm.  My concerns below are absolutely not meant as a criticism of the motivation and altruism underlying the ACEs movement, but as a cautionary nudge to make sure that, in our enthusiasm to do good, we don’t run before we can walk.

A narrow definition of adversity

The original ACEs study defined ten kinds of adverse experience; five that involved direct harm to a child (physical, sexual and emotional abuse; physical and emotional neglect) and five that affect the environment in which they grow up (domestic violence; substance abuse; mental illness; parental separation; incarceration of a household member).  My first thought on reading the paper was – why just these?  What about bullying? Hunger? Homelessness? The death of a parent?  And why only things that happen within the household, surely community violence is an adverse experience?  Since the initial study, a great many others have been published that include one or more of these or other ‘extra’ ACEs.  To me this illustrates that, outside of academic research, a focus solely on the ten ‘official’ ACEs was always too narrow. 

The ACE movement also seems to conflate adversity with trauma, and the two are very different.    In this article, Gary Walsh states that

the term risks suggesting that adversity of any kind is bad or traumatic. While abuse and neglect should always be considered fundamentally wrong, traumatic and preventable, the same cannot always be said for adversity. Everyone will experience adversity at some point and there is often strength and hope to be found in it. Our responses to adversity can nurture resilience and loving relationships while also defining our identities

ACE-awareness

In a way, I think the ACEs movement has become a victim of its own success.  It’s in danger of becoming its own distinct field, rather than what I think it should have been: another, powerful piece of evidence to raise awareness of and advocate for what we already knew to be important. It has done that to some extent, of course, but unfortunately it has spawned a distinct campaign that has raised awareness primarily of the ten, narrowly-defined ACEs chosen by the original researchers. The ACEs study provided some excellent population-level data, but I don’t believe it was ground-breaking research. I know to some that might seem blasphemous, but it will not have come as a surprise to anyone that traumatic experiences occurring early in a child’s life can have a lasting impact.    

Being ‘ACE-aware’ has become somewhat of a badge of honour.  We now have ACE-aware schools, councils, businesses, even an ACE-aware nation.  But awareness without action achieves nothing.  There is a world of difference between ACE-awareness and trauma-informed practice.  The former can mean different things to different people but may mean as little as having heard of ACEs and that they can be harmful.  That’s great, but useless on its own. I’m aware of heart surgery, but that doesn’t qualify me to advise a triple bypass.  There are of course many examples of people or organisations who rightly see becoming ACE-aware as just one piece of the jigsaw that is effective and comprehensive trauma-informed practice, but plenty of others who believe ACE-awareness is an end in itself; and that can be dangerous, as my earlier example demonstrates. 

Medicalisation

There is a great deal of published literature asserting that ACEs can have tangible effects on the biology of individuals.  This is powerful stuff and has really helped to raise awareness of ACEs because, rightly or wrongly (well, wrongly), issues are often only taken seriously if they can be labelled as a medical problem or considered a disease. The ACEs movement in the States was, initially at least, led by medics, and that is probably one of the reasons it gained traction. 

But… if you think about it, why does it matter if ACEs have demonstrable biological effects?  Why does that make the case more powerful? In their submission to the House of Commons Science and Technology Select Committee Inquiry into the evidence-base for early years intervention, Edwards et al. asked what I thought was a really pertinent question:

Would a life lived in the miserable conditions created by adverse situations be wrong even if there were no long-lasting biological effects?

Of course it would. So, while the evidence demonstrating that ACEs have a biological impact has been important in raising awareness, there is a danger that ACEs become yet another example of what is essentially a social issue with societal solutions being labelled as a medical one.  When that happens, the focus shifts to identifying and ‘treating’ individuals, rather than prevention at the population level.

Individualism

Time and time again we see the approach to tackling complex social problems focus on searching for ‘solutions’ at an individual level.  What that means is that rather than making the necessary but difficult changes to society that would reduce the risk of rubbish stuff happening , we wait for the rubbish stuff to happen then try to mitigate its effect – what Geoffrey Rose called “a targeted rescue operation for vulnerable individuals”.  For ACEs, that means that the approach has tended to rely on finding individuals with a high ‘ACE score’ and then trying to help them (a bit more on the ACE score and that assumption of needing help later).    It’s a natural and intuitive approach to medicine, but we also know from Rose that, on its own, it has little effect at the population level.  For pretty much any disease or negative outcome you can think of, the greatest burden will fall on the vast majority of people considered as low-risk, simply because of their greater numbers:

If we want to prevent ACEs and their consequences at a large scale, then a population approach where we shift the level of risk in the entire population is required.  For that we need to prevent the causes of ACEs, and not only act on those individuals already affected.  Really, of course, we need to both offer targeted help to those that need it and reduce the level of risk in the whole population (Rose called these the ‘high risk’ and ‘population’ strategies, respectively). But we’re all skint because of funding cuts, and we can’t do both. We’re forced to choose between helping those in most pressing need or incrementally improving population health.  In that situation, the former always wins. But what a shame we’re forced to choose.

ACE scores, screening and ‘routine enquiry’

The ACE score (i.e. the number of ACEs an individual has experienced) was designed for population-level epidemiological research.  It was not intended to inform practice at the individual level.  In their final report, the Science and Technology Committee explicitly state that “the simplicity of [the ACEs] framework and the non-deterministic impact of ACEs mean that it should not be used to guide the support offered to specific individuals.”

Demonstrating an association (note association, not cause) between high numbers of ACEs and poor outcomes at the population level tells us precisely nothing about any individual with a high ACE score.  It is absolutely possible to have ten ACEs and be total fine, or to have no ACEs and be a gibbering wreck (I’m proof of that).  It is the very definition of an ecological fallacy, yet many advocate its use as a screening tool. 

A short while ago I attended a meeting for an organisation who were conducting some research into the experiences of young people involved with the youth justice service. When they passed around the questionnaire they’d been using, I was shocked to see they were asking questions about ACEs.  To children.  When I asked why they were asking them, they were unsure.  They had no plan for what to do with the information and hadn’t thought about whether it might be upsetting.  The questionnaire was being administered by an 18 year old girl with no training.  Luckily, following advice from myself and others, they removed these questions. 

There was absolutely no malice in what they were doing of course, they were acting with the best intentions and, well, being ACE-aware I suppose.  But any form of screening has the potential to do more harm than good and we “shouldn’t let good intentions undermine […] screening principles”.  Screening for ACEs risks labelling individuals who are otherwise content and well and basically fine, or signposting them to services they don’t need. Or, perhaps worse, highlighting issues that need urgently addressing, but not knowing how to. This paper by David Finkelhor cautions against prematurely screening for ACEs and is a must-read.  He states that we don’t yet have any evidence-based interventions for high ACE scores and we don’t understand the potential negative outcomes and costs of screening:

if general ACE screening were to result in a big increase in unnecessary and inherently expensive child welfare referrals and investigations as one of its main outcomes, we might look back on the ACE mobilization as a disastrous distraction to the development of evidence based child welfare policy

I’ve also come across advocates for ‘Routine Enquiry for Adversity in Childhood’. “It’s not screening!”, they say.  It is screening.  There is no evidence it has a positive effect on outcomes.  When I’ve raised this I’ve been pointed to this evaluation as evidence.  In fact, it states that:

  • None of the sites successfully implemented the REACh program
  • “One of the underlying assumptions […] is that the enquiry process itself may be therapeutic” but that “practitioners raised concerns that this may not be the case”
  • “Concerns were expressed around the ethics of identifying ACEs without the ability to offer appropriate support to those who may need it”
  • “Little evidence currently exists on the value of routine enquiry about childhood adversity, using the ACE (or equivalent) questionnaire, or the responses or interventions required for those reporting childhood adversities”

So not really evidence of effectiveness, then… and yet it’s been rolled out across several services in England, including the charity I spoke of in my example earlier. 

ACEs as a cause

There is no doubt a strong correlation between ACEs and negative outcomes in no longer life, but that does not necessarily demonstrate causation (see Correlation and causation in the Committee report).  I think of ACEs as a symptom of an underlying cause: shit life syndrome, basically.  I think this is illustrated really well by the Building Community Resilience (BCR) ‘pair of ACEs’ framework:

The Pair of ACEs Tree demonstrates the interconnectedness social circumstances and adverse experiences of their family environment.  The leaves on the tree represent the ‘symptoms’ that are easily recognized in clinical, educational and social service settings, but the underlying causes are the usual suspects: a lack of affordable and safe housing, community violence, inequality, discrimination, poverty, etc.. 

If difficult lives (or ‘adverse socioeconomic circumstances’) are the root cause of ACEs, then I’m not sure we even need distinct ACEs prevention strategies; it’s the same as preventing everything else.  What we need is the funding and freedom to develop broad prevention approaches that focus upstream.  A living wage.  Clean streets.  Good, affordable housing.  Parks.  Stuff for teenagers to do.  Welfare. Jobs.  Childcare.  Good schools.  Of course, we could never prevent everything, so we will always need access to excellent individual support. But that is not going to reduce the incidence. Trauma-informed practice and proper help for individuals is absolutely essential, but it’s not really prevention is it?  We need to tackle the roots of the problem too.

Summary

I’ve banged on for ages here, so I want to just reiterate that I know there are many hundreds of people and organisations doing excellent, holistic work on ACEs, and that much of what I’ve written will not be new or relevant to them. 

But I have witnessed practices being adopted that aren’t (at least yet) based on evidence, but rather the very human desire to just ‘do something’ to alleviate a perceived injustice. Public health is an evidence-based discipline, but we are all human. We will at times be guilty of picking evidence to suit our own narrative, even unconsciously and with the best intentions. If something seems important, we may choose to do it quickly rather than do it properly.  It’s not just ACEs of course: MECC, social prescribing, apps…. all being rolled out without robust evidence, all ignoring upstream factors to a greater or lesser extent.  It’s something we need to be a little wary of more generally and be careful not to run before we can walk. ACEs are no doubt an important advocacy tool that reflect deeper, underlying problems; but we must not lose sight of the bigger context and wider determinants of public health issues. 

Other (better) critiques of ACEs

Much cleverer people have written much more eloquently than me about these issues.  I’ve found those below useful – all very worth a read.

  • Edwards et al. (2017). The problem with ‘ACEs’: EY10039: Submission to the House of Commons Science and Technology Select Committee Inquiry into the evidence-base for early years intervention.  A very robust criticism of the ACEs approach, which garnered strong support in response from a number of other academics similarly concerned about the limitations of the ACEs approach.
  • Finkelhor (2017). Screening for adverse childhood experiences (ACEs): Cautions and suggestions. Child Abuse and Neglect.
  • Taylor-Robinson et al. (2018). Adverse childhood experiences or adverse childhood socioeconomic conditions? The Lancet Public Health.
  • The Times Educational Supplement has published several articles arguing for and against the ACEs movement:
    • Barrett (2018)Why I worry about the ACE-aware movement’s impact.
    • Zeedyk (2018). Childhood trauma: Why I celebrate the ACE-aware movement’s impact.
    • Walsh (2018)The ACEs campaign: cause for worry or celebration?

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In the five years I've been aware of ACES... After writing my book The ACEs Revolution! .... I'm becoming Disturbed at how much time effort and science we devote to studying the trauma and have little time we spend talking about with Dr filetti says is even more important... PREVENTING ACEs!!!

To those parents who have no idea what a happy and functional family looks like I now have a new book called Preventing ACEs!  It just makes common sense that we should spend time at the hospital level offering mandatory courses on how to raise your children...that way we don't have to worry so much about undoing the damage that we've done to them in the early formative years of their lives.  We need to start to do that today because as we've all learned this is more common and painful than the doctors ever imagined it could be.

Wake the heck up America and start parenting like you care and treat your children as you would like to have been treated it's no more difficult to understand!  We require a driver's license to get behind the wheel of a car but if anyone can have a child with no training and look what it's cost us. There should be a mandatory 3 hours of simple honest and heartfelt discussion in auditoriums around the country to prevent all the trauma that's occurring on a daily basis.

Children's lives are in the balance today!!

 

 

 

 

Treva Massey posted:

In my previously long comment I did want to mention your pair of ACEs tree. I have suffered in every catagory on both aspects of the tree. With that being said I am a fully functioning 52 year old adult that has suffered many things from these experiences of which has affected my everyday life throughout many years including my life with my husband, children and friends. Statistics are not in my vocabulary to go by. The chain has been broken with me many times to keep abuse out of my family life. So learning as much as possible in all situations has been the most positive thing I can do. That in turn has not only provided much needed insight to my situations but has also helped me to help others. I have one addiction and that is cigarettes. Mentally I have noticed that my past history of events that have come through my life has affected more now that I'm older than when I was young. So I do believe that helping someone helping early in life can help guide a person throughout their lives. Thank you again for the converstion regarding ACEs.

Thanks Treva, I'm glad you find my blog interesting, especially given as you've gone through such experiences. I really appreciate you taking the time to read it and tell me your story.

In my previously long comment I did want to mention your pair of ACEs tree. I have suffered in every catagory on both aspects of the tree. With that being said I am a fully functioning 52 year old adult that has suffered many things from these experiences of which has affected my everyday life throughout many years including my life with my husband, children and friends. Statistics are not in my vocabulary to go by. The chain has been broken with me many times to keep abuse out of my family life. So learning as much as possible in all situations has been the most positive thing I can do. That in turn has not only provided much needed insight to my situations but has also helped me to help others. I have one addiction and that is cigarettes. Mentally I have noticed that my past history of events that have come through my life has affected more now that I'm older than when I was young. So I do believe that helping someone helping early in life can help guide a person throughout their lives. Thank you again for the converstion regarding ACEs.

Andrew Turner, in reading your response to the ACEs insight knowledge of sort of what happens next, kind of thing, I would like to say that I agree. Life happens everyday for many people. You will not be able to stop it today, tomorrow or any day ahead. It is one that will go on through the end of time. The goal in life that most people have is to try to "fix" things, do good for those suffering. In most minds anything is better than nothing.

Our goals should be not to rid the world of bad things because it's a futile point, but to manage those who have been wronged, hurt and or neglected in some way. Life should be on how to make the best out of life itself. Now if you take my score which is 10+, the average person would be flipping out as to how I survived. Well it was not easy. Where the average person was studying for tests or getting prepared for job interviews I was grooming myself on how to not let my life define me. No, I had not been taught or found how I was supposed to feel, I just read books on social skills needed to help get a job/function in the real world. Then (35 years ago) that is what was the good thing was. Today it's ACEs. I believe this is an awesome program. To help someone while they are going through trauma, domestic abuse, bulling, or what ever is in need, is an awesome idea.

I do believe there has to be a goal and purpose for everything. First, there should definitely be training for the people to test, advise and/or help in anyway through this process. When I was approached to take the test there was nothing said except can you take this test? So, as I normally do I investigated the test before taking it. Then I took it once online and then a different one with her. Both tests were high scores. She said after giving me this short test that I was a miracle. But the difference between me and others is I was bound to find help but in a book. I'm not anybody special. So that gives me hope for others that have gone through any of what I have and survived in maintaining the "normal" life.

The problem isn't those wanting to help, it's those who jump in before investigating. For example, if the lady that was trying to help would have been better informed with the test and what to do depending on the answers, then the next thing would to give information to receive help if I needed or wanted it. This person is also involved with youth groups and can be of great help with ACEs program. Training should be a part of things before help is offered due to finding the correct help. There is not a cure all when it comes to home, environment and or life events. There is however, intervention or help before, during or after events have happened.Though I am a bit different than the average person in my case, I do believe that the test and then the correct help will help the process of people young and old that can benefit from the ACEs. It is just a matter of knowing the correct help in all situations. 

The life my brother and I have lived was extremely traumatic. No one at that time had anything to offer to help us. It was not something that I believe they could even understand back then to have the ability to really help. Advances have come a long way.  We had severe physical abuse, mental abuse and then we watched our mother shot and killed by our step father. If you looked at our lives since you can't tell we shared the same life. He an addict and has violent anger, blame and shame in his life. My life though tough has not been as severe. Until 4 years ago no one hardly knew what kind of life I had ever lived, including my father. So it is not what we went through but the way it was handled and the help that was offered. So when you try to figure out the whole volume of how ACEs can be of help I agree in some aspects that it should definitely be informed and training should be number one on the list of making things correct so not to further cause even more problems with the individuals they are trying to help. On the flip side of that you can't learn without mistakes. Your analogy of the situation with the ACEs program is on que. Now it is up to the many people involved to learn from what you have said.  I will say on a few of your points regarding the bulling and other instances in life there are already in place, help and somewhat some understanding for those instances as well as domestic abuse and other tragic events. The main idea is to combined these events and find a way to teach or train those that are trying to help.

My brother nor I ever received help 38 years ago. We lost in so many ways. Me, I found a way how to handle things without allowing others to define me with these events. On the other side of that it also shut me out of what I could have done or been. My brother on the other hand did not have it so positive. He left and alcoholic abusive home after loosing our mother, being separated from his sister and now go back into an alcoholic abusive and somewhat unloved environment. He is has never had any help other than rehabs. He is now in jail awaiting a trial from an armed robbery. So sit back and tell me how can we help children like my brother and I before it goes to far? 

First, let them know they aren't alone. Second, encourage the parents to get the help we all know they will need. Third, teach the parents if possible how to reinforce the help they will be receiving. Fourth, have classes with school teachers, church leaders and others that can help them to recognize when children are in need. It's not just starting a program like this that helps but staying informed and understanding that not everyone can be helped but you NEVER stop trying. One of the most important things that I do see is that more people that have dealt with a tragic kind of life are the one's that help. Because whether anyone wants to admit it, you can say what you want and try to help but without those who have gone through it it's highly possible your help will fall on deaf's ear. Because no matter what a person says unless you've experienced it and the fear you can't understand the mentality of the issues. Even if your a trained professional. So survivors like me can teach and whether or not we have a degree or not we can help others. We too have to be trained in those situations.

I am just a wife of 32 years with 2, son,wife and daughter,husband, by birth children, an adopted of love daughter,husband, 8 grandchildren and a life I had never dreamed possible. Graduating high school was an accomplishment for me. Teaching myself how to survive was something I had not planned on doing nor do I believe I did it all correctly but with that being said trial and error have taught me a few things. I can help and use what I have learned along the way to help others. In the end that is what this is all about. Yes everything in your life plays a part in how, what, when and why we do the things we do. But a person also has to take into consideration that genetics also play a part in those decisions. I do not have certain things like OCD that would play a big part on how a person reacts to things. So understanding a person makes a big difference. Learning how to overcome things is the main part of functioning in this surreal world. So many things have to be considered. And if a person is smart they won't be the smartest person in the room, because if they are they can never learn more. 

Thank you for your insight on this matter. It helped me to realize that I was not the only one thinking that way. Sometimes we get insecure about if the things we think are in the correct mind set. So thank you for sharing. Though I do think the actual word harmful is really misrepresented in this context I understand what it is you are trying to say. Training is the first thing that should be done and recognized as the most ultimate step in helping others. I do not believe this would put a person in harms way so much as to not allow them the understanding of their own lives and how their past can help others. If you have survived and functioning fairly well then you have already gotten a step ahead. It is not a bad thing to have bad things happen. It will happen. It is the way a person is given this information that will decide how well they handle the information. Thank you for your analyses and I hope these conversations bring for more understandings for many of the processes for not only this program but others to come. 

Amit Janco posted:

Thank you, Andrew, for an insightful and thought-provoking take on the ACEs 'movement.' I think you raise some very important issues, which I hope will be taken note of by those who are trying to develop further surveys (?) and best practices in this burgeoning field. My concern is with how you describe the underlying causes as "the usual suspects" because, much like the criticism levied against the ACEs survey for it non-exhaustive list of harms, I imagine there might be more unreported reasons than those you've mentioned (such as those indicated at the tree's roots) - including many unique to the experiences of immigrant and refugee families. As a survivor of childhood/youth cruelty and trauma, my journey towards better understanding the origins of my own addled past (and present), have led me to learn about the deeply felt traumas (interpersonal, intergenerational, intercultural) associated with moving half a world away from... 'home' - in particular, when those fears, sadness and anxiety are forever left unaddressed.

Thanks Amit.  I totally agree.  Absolutely not questioning the underlying motives of ACEs advocates, I'm just yet to find evidence that the ten ACEs together or alone are of any more significance than countless other stressful life experiences.  As an awareness-raising tool, ACEs have been amazing, but I'd love to see more evidence of the impact of asking about them on individuals.

Simon Partridge posted:

Andrew thanks for your interesting contribution to the debate around ACEs. As a survivor of early trauma, having been sent to an English boarding school at the age of 6 in the late 1950s, I have followed the development of the ACEs movement closely in Britain and Ireland and in the USA. After careful consideration I am an advocate of an ACEs, trauma-informed approach to ameliorating trauma consequences [it makes a whole lot more sense than the orthodox psychoanalysis I was subjected to over many years - in many ways it is a practical application of the Attachment Theory developed by John Bowlby. He always recognised external traumata.] Of course, it has to be applied in a non-dogmatic manner.

Felitti and Anda always recognised that their original study cohort of 17,000+ was middle class biased but they went on to say, rightly in my view, that that made its findings even more plausible. They recognised those less well resourced would be even more vulnerable to toxic ACE stressors. And many practitioners in Britain/Ireland have picked up the need for practitioner awareness training - see Angela Kennedy's et al's work on trauma-informed care in mental health

http://openaccess.sgul.ac.uk/1...HRJ-01-2015-0006.pdf

It sounds like you're based in England because your sort of comments could hardly be made in Scotland, Wales or Ireland, where they have already done a lot of development work. You may like to know that I am involved with a network developing ACEs-awareness across Greater London, from the grass-roots to the regional level. We intend to work with the Mayor of London's recently created London Violence Reduction Unit which is based on public health principles. You would be very welcome to get in touch, particularly if you're based in London or nearby.

You can contact me at:  simonpartridge846@btinternet.com

 

Hi Simon, apologies for only just replying, I wasn't getting notifications for comments!  I am in England yes, but in the North West.  I've absolutely no problem at all with a trauma-informed approach, that's completely necessary, I just question the evidence for using the 10 ACE questionnaire to inform practice with individuals.  I would be very happy to have my mind changed and I am constantly looking for published studies showing that knowing about an individual's ACEs has a benefit beyond either not knowing or finding out about trauma in a different way. 

Hi Andrew, 

I will repeat here what I have already said to you elsewhere...

REACh is not screening. It is a targeted approach, which is always based on clinical judgement and a person’s needs. It is also a respectful offer to a person which they can decline. But is indicates we are ready to hear their story should they want to share it. 

There are 2 papers in peer review which I hope will be available soon. You mention the quality of the evidence. I agree it is developing and we need more on impact. We have established feasibility and acceptability.

The report you cite above wrongly states it tested REACh and it does not. Instead they tested a stand-alone implementation pack which asked teams to train themselves. Conclusion: they didn’t follow the instructions and instead cited the usual list of anxieties offered by people who have had no training and support in doing routine or targeted enquiry.

Please could you correct this factual inaccuracy in your blog?  

Also, you didn’t cite this important evaluation http://www.aces.me.uk/files/22...valuation_Report.pdf

Which is crucial in balancing the picture and argument. There is some encouraging indication of impact.

 I am working with various people on NIHR grant applications. If you want to know more let me know.

 Welcome your thoughts on the above. 

Crucial point:

 Anxiety about enquiry is why people don’t do it. 

 The majority of this is expressed by people who have never conducted ACE enquiry and have not seen that their anxieties do not bear any resemblance to reality. People appreciate being asked, usually don’t want onward referrals and often start a journey of recovery.

 Asking about someone’s past when we are trying to assist them is not screening, it is a basic part of a thorough and appropriate biopsychosocial assessment. I have been doing this since I was a trainee clinical psychologist and I suspect that thousands of other professionals and clinicians do the same every day.

REACh is an attempt to give confidence and skills to practitioners and create the appropriate organisational conditions for this practice to become a routine offer. I’m still striving for parity of esteem between the relevance of life events and biology in services designed to help people.

Waiting to be told does not work! In many cases it is an act of omission which means we just keep treating the symptoms and avoiding the cause. Sometimes that approach manages pain and distress, often it is ineffective and sometimes harmful.

WL

Thank you, Andrew, for an insightful and thought-provoking take on the ACEs 'movement.' I think you raise some very important issues, which I hope will be taken note of by those who are trying to develop further surveys (?) and best practices in this burgeoning field. My concern is with how you describe the underlying causes as "the usual suspects" because, much like the criticism levied against the ACEs survey for it non-exhaustive list of harms, I imagine there might be more unreported reasons than those you've mentioned (such as those indicated at the tree's roots) - including many unique to the experiences of immigrant and refugee families. As a survivor of childhood/youth cruelty and trauma, my journey towards better understanding the origins of my own addled past (and present), have led me to learn about the deeply felt traumas (interpersonal, intergenerational, intercultural) associated with moving half a world away from... 'home' - in particular, when those fears, sadness and anxiety are forever left unaddressed.

Andrew thanks for your interesting contribution to the debate around ACEs. As a survivor of early trauma, having been sent to an English boarding school at the age of 6 in the late 1950s, I have followed the development of the ACEs movement closely in Britain and Ireland and in the USA. After careful consideration I am an advocate of an ACEs, trauma-informed approach to ameliorating trauma consequences [it makes a whole lot more sense than the orthodox psychoanalysis I was subjected to over many years - in many ways it is a practical application of the Attachment Theory developed by John Bowlby. He always recognised external traumata.] Of course, it has to be applied in a non-dogmatic manner.

Felitti and Anda always recognised that their original study cohort of 17,000+ was middle class biased but they went on to say, rightly in my view, that that made its findings even more plausible. They recognised those less well resourced would be even more vulnerable to toxic ACE stressors. And many practitioners in Britain/Ireland have picked up the need for practitioner awareness training - see Angela Kennedy's et al's work on trauma-informed care in mental health

http://openaccess.sgul.ac.uk/1...HRJ-01-2015-0006.pdf

It sounds like you're based in England because your sort of comments could hardly be made in Scotland, Wales or Ireland, where they have already done a lot of development work. You may like to know that I am involved with a network developing ACEs-awareness across Greater London, from the grass-roots to the regional level. We intend to work with the Mayor of London's recently created London Violence Reduction Unit which is based on public health principles. You would be very welcome to get in touch, particularly if you're based in London or nearby.

You can contact me at:  simonpartridge846@btinternet.com

 

Going back to the main page I instantly realized that this aces connection website does a very good job of looking at the community environment aspect of adversity from the micro all the way out to the macro.

I love the Pair of ACEs Tree.  I agree with your concerns.  The ACE test was developed based on adversities of people who had jobs that provided health insurance. When speaking of ACEs, I point out that some adverse experiences can be so debilitating, people who experienced them are not likely to get a job with good benefits. Being bounced around as a child in a foster care system is an example that comes to mind. I had traumatic experiences as a child mainly caused by the way medicine was practiced on infants and children. I can point to effects of those experiences, but I also have a pretty good resilience score because my family life was at least average if not better than average.

In a medical clinic where I did a social work internship, The peds clinic was the most actively aware of ACEs. They didn't give questionnaires to the patients. they simply gave parents information that pointed out if your kids are experiencing these issues listed in the handouts, there is a possible impact on their long term mental and physical health.

Thanks for your writing. I have to admit my short attention span led me to skim some of it toward the end. I may go back to it though, because it raises important considerations.

Rich

Leslie Lieberman posted:

Thank you Andrew for this very thoughtful and thought provoking article.  You have put into words many things that I, (admittedly self-described as a pretty  active member of the "ACEs movement") have been thinking about and discussing with colleagues.   I will be referring your comments to them and expect they will result in some very fruitful dialogues.

Thanks Leslie

Thank you Andrew for this very thoughtful and thought provoking article.  You have put into words many things that I, (admittedly self-described as a pretty  active member of the "ACEs movement") have been thinking about and discussing with colleagues.   I will be referring your comments to them and expect they will result in some very fruitful dialogues.

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