Here is a post I sent out a few days ago.  The responses have been very encouraging but they have all come from women.  I'm not being sexist here; I just want a good cross section of ACEs survivors.  Yes, it's a long shot but long shots have had a way of coming true in my life.  So here it is:

Having only this year read about the ACEs Study, I am new to this website.  Originally, I came here to find personal stories, similar to mine, to see how others with seven ACEs have fared in life. Now I am looking for ACEs survivors to contribute their stories to a book I am proposing.   It would include a primer on the ACEs Study and subsequent movement, a brief autobiographical section from each author (15-20 pages), and a discussion of how the two external forces, trauma and resilience, influenced the academic, professional, social, and medical outcomes in our lives so far.  Internal factors, such as genetic predispositions should also be considered.  Finally, I would like to include a discussion of the relief I have experienced since learning what a qualified success I have become. 

My hope is to share with other ACEs survivors the good news that, if they feel they have fallen short in life, they are a much bigger success than they realize.  My first thought was to approach a prestigious University Press with a book proposal. But it could take years for me, a retired marine biologist, to reach the level of expertise Ivy League Editors expect and, this may not be the best way to reach my intended audience. I have decided that a better format would be a collection of personal stories with chapters on ACEs and Resilience.  Multiple contributors would avoid the appearance of a single author fishing for sympathy, advancing a personal agenda, or boasting.  Rough calculations indicate that there are only about two million Americans over age 18 with 7 or more ACES, fewer than that if you factor in shortened longevity.  Finding interested writers may be a real challenge.  I thought perhaps with all your ACEs connections, someone here might be or might recommend a good prospect or prospects.

If this site has private messaging, I would be glad to provide anyone interested with more details about my experience.  I will look forward to hearing from you.

 
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Great goal Charles.

You are asking for men with 7 or more ACEs scores to write a chapter of your book.  This is a pretty high bar. It would make for great reading and have an emotional impact. My understanding is that the ACEs data is easy to hide what is really going on with people. It only takes 2-3  ACE score to damage your emotional body and give the effects of childhood trauma. From government studies, I have found that 133 million people are taking psychoactive drugs in the US.  These people are in enough pain ( from the past ) to go to doctors and get prescribed. Then I found that another 65 million people are self-described binge drinkers.. Again not happy or adjusted people.  Both of these groups of people with proven disorders are at risk for having 10-20 years of their life reduced because of their pain driven unresolved past.  See Charles this reframes the story from 2 million Americans ( 7+ ACEs scores ) to 200 million Americans who suffer Adverse Results.  Now if you take the low score of 10 years YLOL ( Years Loss of Life ) that the CDC says is possible you are looking at 2 billion YLOL.  I will give you another example and that is sexual misconduct or child rape by a caregiver. This is around 25& of women and 17% of men in America. This one ACE is enough to dramatically wound the people who have had this happen to them. That is around 100 million people. 

  I love the idea of your book and hope you get the stories you are looking for. All trauma-informed publications are so important now. Much respect.  One place to look is people who have been in prison then went on to do great things. Malcome X comes to mind but I know there are many others.  Also recovered alcohol and drug dependent people are another large group to target. 

Thank you 

Michael 

 

Hello Charles, I'd like to be a part of this book endeavor...my ACE Score is 9, the only one I don't get to check off, " has anyone on your famliy  been to prison?".  Truth be told, my parents should have been in prison for what they did to children, and my father for his ties to organized crime and his job of being the enforcer who hurt people when they owed money, etc.

The 10 questions on the ACE Score do not reflect all of the respective traumas/abuse and adverse childhood experiences people have endured. They have helped pave the way and opened doors, but so many other questions can be added to the questionnaire. Just my two cents, I'm sure there are a lot of other folks who could be a part of your book.

You can learn more about me here - http://mskinnermusic.com/  & things I've written - http://mskinnermusic.com/category/articles/

Take care, Michael Skinner   mikeskinner@comcast.net

Michael Harrell posted:

Great goal Charles.

You are asking for men with 7 or more ACEs scores to write a chapter of your book.  This is a pretty high bar. It would make for great reading and have an emotional impact. My understanding is that the ACEs data is easy to hide what is really going on with people. It only takes 2-3  ACE score to damage your emotional body and give the effects of childhood trauma. From government studies, I have found that 133 million people are taking psychoactive drugs in the US.  These people are in enough pain ( from the past ) to go to doctors and get prescribed. Then I found that another 65 million people are self-described binge drinkers.. Again not happy or adjusted people.  Both of these groups of people with proven disorders are at risk for having 10-20 years of their life reduced because of their pain driven unresolved past.  See Charles this reframes the story from 2 million Americans ( 7+ ACEs scores ) to 200 million Americans who suffer Adverse Results.  Now if you take the low score of 10 years YLOL ( Years Loss of Life ) that the CDC says is possible you are looking at 2 billion YLOL.  I will give you another example and that is sexual misconduct or child rape by a caregiver. This is around 25& of women and 17% of men in America. This one ACE is enough to dramatically wound the people who have had this happen to them. That is around 100 million people. 

  I love the idea of your book and hope you get the stories you are looking for. All trauma-informed publications are so important now. Much respect.  One place to look is people who have been in prison then went on to do great things. Malcome X comes to mind but I know there are many others.  Also recovered alcohol and drug dependent people are another large group to target. 

Thank you 

Michael 

 

Hello Michael.  Thank you for your thoughtful reply.  There is a lot of good information here, the kind I would like to get out to everyone else.   I do plan to attend the AA conference in Detroit next Summer and, perhaps, post an announcement on the community bulletin board, if there is one.  From the content of your message, I presume you have fewer than seven ACEs. That may not be the best criterion for choosing co-authors.  I am looking specifically for people who have been resilient and can explain what they think saved them from living failed lives. 

Good writing may be just as important as experience.  As previously stated, I am new to this website.  Are there more examples of your writing here?  Would you be interested in contributing?  

Best regards,

Chuck

 

A follow up -

Hi Chuck,

As mentioned, articles/blogs I've written are posted here [including one shared in Male Survivor]  - You can learn more about me here - http://mskinnermusic.com/  & things I've written - http://mskinnermusic.com/category/articles/

Also have chapters in 3 books on healing from trauma/abuse, one published in Japan many years a go, a chapter in Our Encounters With Suicide, PCS books, [Great Britain & Europe] - my chapter, "The Silence of Suicide" - https://www.pccs-books.co.uk/p...uicide/#.XfutGxt7nRY  also, more info here, scroll down to # 4 - http://mskinnermusic.com/prese...s-workshops-writing/  Also a chapter in You Can Help- A Guide for Family & Friends of Survivors of Sexual Abuse and Assault - http://www.youcanhelpsurvivors.com/  I'm in Chapter 19,Victims of Multiple Perpetrators. This book was published about 3 - 4 years ago.

Take care, Michael Skinner

Charles Sultzman posted:
Michael Harrell posted:

Great goal Charles.

You are asking for men with 7 or more ACEs scores to write a chapter of your book.  This is a pretty high bar. It would make for great reading and have an emotional impact. My understanding is that the ACEs data is easy to hide what is really going on with people. It only takes 2-3  ACE score to damage your emotional body and give the effects of childhood trauma. From government studies, I have found that 133 million people are taking psychoactive drugs in the US.  These people are in enough pain ( from the past ) to go to doctors and get prescribed. Then I found that another 65 million people are self-described binge drinkers.. Again not happy or adjusted people.  Both of these groups of people with proven disorders are at risk for having 10-20 years of their life reduced because of their pain driven unresolved past.  See Charles this reframes the story from 2 million Americans ( 7+ ACEs scores ) to 200 million Americans who suffer Adverse Results.  Now if you take the low score of 10 years YLOL ( Years Loss of Life ) that the CDC says is possible you are looking at 2 billion YLOL.  I will give you another example and that is sexual misconduct or child rape by a caregiver. This is around 25& of women and 17% of men in America. This one ACE is enough to dramatically wound the people who have had this happen to them. That is around 100 million people. 

  I love the idea of your book and hope you get the stories you are looking for. All trauma-informed publications are so important now. Much respect.  One place to look is people who have been in prison then went on to do great things. Malcome X comes to mind but I know there are many others.  Also recovered alcohol and drug dependent people are another large group to target. 

Thank you 

Michael 

 

Hello Michael.  Thank you for your thoughtful reply.  There is a lot of good information here, the kind I would like to get out to everyone else.   I do plan to attend the AA conference in Detroit next Summer and, perhaps, post an announcement on the community bulletin board, if there is one.  From the content of your message, I presume you have fewer than seven ACEs. That may not be the best criterion for choosing co-authors.  I am looking specifically for people who have been resilient and can explain what they think saved them from living failed lives. 

Good writing may be just as important as experience.  As previously stated, I am new to this website.  Are there more examples of your writing here?  Would you be interested in contributing?  

Best regards,

Chuck

 

Sorry but count me out. My hands are full. I am starting to make Savannah a Trauma-Informed city.  Plus all the work I do on Facebook. I have a group doing healing work ( 4000) and a page that has 17000 followers.  But I can offer my moral and emotional support. YAY keep up the good work. 

Thank you Chuck,

Michael 

'Witnessing' my mother's handgun suicide, as a teen-ager, probably wasn't my only 'ACE', but if we use the World Health Organization's 'WHO ACE International Questionnaire'--which includes both their types of ACEs: "Adverse Community Environments" as well as "Adverse Childhood Experiences", it may be comparable to an Epidemiologist's 'Grand Rounds' issue presented at [then Dartmouth, now] Geisel Medical School 'Grand Rounds' in 2000: "52% of Detroit Metropolitan Area Schoolchildren met the DSM-IV criteria for PTSD". I had occasions to observe much, including 'schoolchildren', in the Southeast Bronx-in 1972-73 ....

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