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Dear all,

We are about to launch the Dutch ACE-Aware-website and have already started with the Facebook-page and twitter-account. Today, some critical tweets came in, calling the ACEs-science 'pseudoscience'. I know there is critique related to the concept and I still have to read the article by Robert Anda (this March) in which he addresses this, but is there a list of articles or links where both the critique AND the answers to the critique can be found? I would like to dive into that more deeply in order to be able to understand both views and to counter critical sounds that lack solid arguments and thus increase the risk of, again, the importance of a secure childhood with attention for basic biopsychosocial needs being trumped.

Many thanks in advance for guiding me to the right sources!

Warmly,

Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena IBCLC, MSc
ACE Aware NL (Netherlands)

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I just posted a video by Dr. Anda. He does not criticize the ACE Study, only its application for screening in patients. There are many who agree with him, and many who don't.

In the 23-minute video, he reviews what he says are the strengths and limitations of the ACE Study. Nothing he says invalidates the science of the ACE Study. He has objections to how it's used in a clinical setting, but there are even caveats there. He supports educating people about the  ACE Study.

Here's a link to the opinion piece he wrote in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine — https://www.ajpmonline.org/art...(20)30058-1/fulltext

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Thank you, Jane, for your response! I just watched the video and am left behind with more or less the same questions and some new ones on top of them, I'm afraid... ;-)
There seem to be some contradictions in what Rob says: if he mentions 'taking action', why could that action not be in the form of policy...? I know that Scotland saw the publication of wonderful, impressive documents from The Care Review . I also have a hard time understanding why we *can* say something about groups, and why we *cannot* say something about the individuals, seeing that groups are made up of individuals and group function depends on how individuals function within the groups, the way they are (un)able to cooperate with others and the trust and confidence they experience/perceive.
Fortunately, I had the offer the other day of having an online meeting shortly with someone really knowledgeable, so I hope a conversation will clear some things up a bit further.
The article (that I already downloaded couple weeks ago) I still have to read; maybe that will turn out to be helpful, too. I was curious about non-author critiques and counter-critiques and whether there are gathered somewhere, but did not find a tab or folder here for those.

I notice that I feel saddened by people responding so aggressively and negatively to the idea that we should pay way more societal attention to what happens in childhood... If you know a decent bit about stress physiology... it's not even rocket science, is it...? It's sad, that the interests of children are so structurally downplayed and backstaged. This includes the inner children in us as adults, by the way...

Thanks for video; I will watch it again and write down some points to discuss live!

Aaah, Melissa, thank you so much! That is really helpful, indeed! And thank you, Jane, for writing/compiling that piece! I will definitely sit down to read that very carefully.

My... there is always so much to learn, right...? It feels quite daunting sometimes, seeing how fast the days go by...! ;-)
Wonderful, having so many people present here, to share their wisdom and refer to resources; even in this one website/community there is already so much to dive into!

Best,

Marianne

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